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Tupac-greatest rapper ever

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Tupac-greatest rapper ever

Postby Tupac » 25 Nov 2008, 12:19

Tupac Amaru Shakur (16.06.1971-13.09.1996 sau dupa parerea mea ?????? deoarece eu cred ca el nu este mort fara a ma inscrie totusi in categoria fanilor nebuni, care sustin sus si tare ca el traieste undeva ascuns... pur si simplu The 7 day theory demonstreaza suficiente, pentru ca eu sa fiu convins ca el traieste.)
Pentru inceput am deschis acest topic cu scopul de a da niste informatii oamenilor de pe forum care sunt de parere ca Tupac a fost doar un rapper care a ajuns foarte departe. Tupac Shakur este cunoscut in Guinness Book of World Records ca fiind rapperul cu cele mai multe vazari de albume din lume, peste 75 de milioane in toata lumea ( un numar incredibil dupa parerea mea) 50 de milioane de albume fiind vandute numai in America.
Majoritatea cantecelor lui Tupac au ca subiect viata grea din ghetouri, rasism, problemele din societate si uneori insulte adresate altor rapperi( Biggie Smalz spre exemplu). Este deasemenea cunoscut pentru descrierea in detaliu a violentei, abuzul de droguri si conflictele cu legea. Este considerat de unii (printre care si eu) cel mai mare rapper al tuturor timpurilor.
Pe langa impresionanta cariera muzicala, se remarca si in filmografie, avnd numeroase roluri in filme consacrate. Spre exemplu "juice" , un film in care Tupac interpreteaza un adolescent pe nume Bishop. Filmul este considerat de critici ca fiind de succes, iar rolul ocupat de Tupac, se considera ca reprezinta o parte din adolescentii din ziua de astazi. Deasemenea ocupa roluri in filmele :"Poetic Justice", "Bullet", "Gang Related" iar in 2008 se asteapta lansarea unui film cu scenariul scris de el, in timpul incarcerarii, numit "live 2 tell" ( inprivinta ascetui film nu am auzit nimic, cu aceasta ocazie chiar as dori, daca cineva detine detalii in privinta filmului sa mi le posteze sau sa mi le trimita intr-un pm).
In 1993, Tupac formeaza grupul Thug Life impreuna cu cativa prieteni de ai sai: Big Syke, Macadoshis, fratele sau vitreg Mopreme Shakur si Rated R. Grupul a lansat primul si ultimul lor album Thug Life Vol. 1 pe 26 Septembrie, 1994. Grupul canta la concerte de obicei fara Tupac. Conceptul ,,Thug Life" în viziunea lui Tupac era o filozofie pentru viata. A dezvoltat cuvântul în ,,The Hate U Give Little Infants Fucks Everybody". El a definit cuvântul ,,thug" nu ca un criminal, ci ca un om care este stabil, care isi stie puterile, care îsi face viata lui si este mandru de realizarile sale.
Tupac a intrat în penitenciar pe 14 februarie 1995, la Clinton Correctional Facility. La scurt timp dupa asta, a lansat albumul multi-platina Me Against The World. Tupac este singurul artist care a avut un album pe primul loc în Bilboard 200 în timpul închisorii. Albumul a debutat numarul 1 în Bilboard 200 si a ramas acolo timp de cinci saptamani. Albumul a vândut 240000 de exemplare în prima saptamana, Tupac fiind primul rapper care a atins aceasta performanta.
In octombrie 1995, cazul lui Tupac era analizat, dar datorita tuturor lucrurilor ilegale facute nu a putut strange suma de 1.4 milioane de dolari. Dupa ce a servit 11 luni de închisoare, Shakur a fost eliberat datorita lui Marion ,,Suge" Knight, care a platit suma cu condiţia ca Tupac să semneze cu Death Row.
Dupa ce a fost eliberat, Tupac a intrat imediat în studio, a format un grup nou numit The Outlawz, si impreuna cu ei a lansat un disc track ,,Hit Em Up", adresata lui Biggie Smalls, spunand ca a facut sex cu sotia lui si pune la indoiala credibilitatea sa si a lui Puff Daddy (P Diddy). Tupac s-a aliat cu patronul Suge Knight, care era în confilct cu casa de discuri Bad Boy Records. Amandoua partile au fost dusmane de moarte până la "moartea" lui Shakur. În februarie 1996, Tupac Shakur lansează al patrulea sau album, All Eyes On Me, un album dublu, Tupac fiind primul rapper din istorie care a lansat un album de acest gen. Acesta a fost primul si al doilea album lansat din intelegerea sa de a lansa trei albume sub Death Row. Au fost vandute peste 9 milioane de exemplare. A avut un conflict cu Dr Dre, care a plecat din Death Row pentru a-si forma propria casă de discuri, Aftermath. Knight avea multe probleme legale. În ciuda acestor fapte, Tupac a continuat să înregistreze melodii. Pe 7 iunie 2007, Afeni Shakur a recunoscut că Tupac a înregistrat 147 de cântece în acea perioadă. Majoritatea melodiilor au fost lansate în albume post-mortem ca Better Dayz şi Until The End Of Time.
In noaptea de 7 septembrie 1996, Shakur s-a dus la meciul de box dintre Mike Tyson si Bruce Seldon la MGM Grand, in Las Vegas. Dupa acel meci, unul dintre asociatii lui Suge Knight l-a văzut pe Orlando ,,Baby Lane" Anderson, un tanar de 21 de ani, cu care Tupac s-a luptat. Anderson era un membru al Southside Crips, care au jefuit unul dintre asociaţii Death Row cu cateva saptamani inainte. După confruntarea sa cu Anderson, Tupac s-a urcat in maşina lui Suge Knight, un BMW (celelate detalii privind masina le-a uitat insa se gasesc foarte multe pe google:P), împreună cu The Outlawz si bodyguarzi catre clubul detinut de Death Row, Clubul 662. La 10:55 pm, masina a oprit la un semafor rosu si Tupac a fost fotografiat. În jur de 11:00-11:05 pm, au fost opriti de politie deoarece aveau muzica prea tare si mergeau fara placi de inmatriculare, care se aflau în portbagajul lui Suge Knight. În jur de 11:10 pm, au oprit la un semafor si Tupac le-a propus catorva femei sa vina cu ei la Clubul 662. In jur de 11:15 pm, a aparut un Cadillac alb condus de o persoana necunoscuta care a scos arma si tras în maşina, gloantele nimerindu-l pe Tupac, el fiind foarte grav rănit. Niciun glont nu l-a nimerit pe Suge Knight. După impuscaturi, politia l-a dus pe Tupac la University Medical Center, unde a fost tratat 6 zile, dar a "murit" datorita problemelor pulmonare. Pe 13 septembrie 1996, la 04:03 am, Tupac Shakur a fost declarat mort. După acestea, corpul lui Tupac a fost ars, iar cenuşa sa a fost împartita în Oceanul Pacific, cenuşa fiind amestecata cu canabis fumat de The Outlawz. Familia si prietenii au împartit resturile ramase într-o ceremonie ce a avut loc în Soweto, Africa de Sud. Ceremonia a fost întârziată de la 13 septembrie 1996 la 16 iunie 1997, care ar fi fost a 26-a zi de naştere a lui Tupac.
The 7 day Theory:
- Tupac a murit la 25 de ani. 2+5=7
- Ora oficială a morţii sale 4:03 PM. 4+0+3=7
- Tupac a mai trăit încă 7 zile după ce a fost împuşcat.
- Atacul a fost pe 7.
- Au fost 12 focuri cu 5 care au nimerit ţinta. 12-5=7
- Erau 7 membri ai "Outlaw Immortalz” înainte de moartea lui Kadafi.
- Albumul “R U Still Down?" a fost scos pe noiembrie 25. 2+5=7
- În videoclipul "I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto" camera fetelor e 7, iar ceasul de pe masă indică 4:03, ora “decesului” lui Tupac. 4+0+3=7
- ÃŽn "White Man's World" se aude o voce care spune foarte incet " 7 years, 7 years, 7 years..."
- Ziua de nastere a lui Tupac e16. 1+6=7
- În introducerea "The 7 Day Theory” sunt şase focuri. Dar când incepe Tupac să cânte, se aude al şaptelea.
- Pe albumul lui Daz Dillinger, Tupac apare cu numele de Makaveli pe piesa cu nr.7.
In timpul pe care l-a petrecut la închisoare, Tupac s-a „delectat” citind cele două cărţi ale filosofului italian Machiavelli. Acesta considera că înscenarea propriei morţi ar fi o soluţie ideală pentru a scăpa de duşmani.
Aceste argumente relatate mai sus, ma fac sa cred ca el este in viata, iar daca studiezi temeinic acest artist vei obtine mult mia multe detalii, chiar si un video cu el filmat in 2004 intr-o parcare. Lasand la o parte asta eu raman la concluzia ca este cel mai mare rapper al tuturor timpurilor si nimeni nu-l va putea intrece. Am vazut un topic cu cel mai mare rapper al tuturor timpurilor, care acum este inchis. Fanii Eminem(nu am absolut nimic cu ei de fapt ii feicit pentru ca au facut o alegere foarte buna Eminem este intradevar un artist bun si a reusti sa se integreze intre "negrii") ascultati va rog piesele lui Tupac, dar incercati sa le si traduceti, si veti remarca adevarata valoare a acestui artist.
Respect pentru toti fanii Tupac si daca am greseli gramaticale, va rog sa treceti peste ele. Aspet critici la adresa topicului. Respect

Apropo acuma am realizat e al 25-lea post 8-} 2+5=7 :)) ( nu ma prea omor dupa multe posturi)

EDIT: iata niste video care sigur o sa va puna pe ganduri : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flqDt1ne ... re=related and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmkZeeC3DqA&NR=1 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfdGqHyQ ... re=related
sper ca v-am convins in aceasta privinta... In ceea ce priveste succescul sau daca s-ar intoarce...cred ca e indiscutabil
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Re: Tupac-greatest rapper ever

Postby butsen » 25 Nov 2008, 20:59

cred ca ai scris tot toata bibliografia lui :)) 2pac FTW
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Re: Tupac-greatest rapper ever

Postby Nyhmphador » 07 Jan 2009, 22:10

Snoop killed him.2pac was to famous..

Mai pe scurt lui snoop nu ia placut ca 2pac avea toata faima si nush ce si asa ca snoop ala mic si negru din crips la pus pe suge knight sa`l impuste..

Ok asta e o teorie sau mai bine zis am un prieten care e din Canada Bloods si mi-a explicat mai multe..

Or maybe he`s still alive !!

A real gangster..
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Re: Tupac-greatest rapper ever

Postby Tupac » 08 Jan 2009, 21:33

Nyhmphador referitor la ceea ce ai scris tu:
deci si Tupac era in Crips
In al doilea rand nu l`a omorat Suge pt ca si el avea rani de la parbrizul spart de respectivele gloante..
Si eu am auzit despre teroriile tale insa pentru mine nu au relevanta
Multumesc oricum pentru ca ti`ai expus opinia
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Re: Tupac-greatest rapper ever

Postby cvse » 20 Jan 2009, 07:06

Tupac a fost(este,what ever) un rapper mare,insa ar trebuii sa sti ca in rap-ul adevarat,hip-hop :cel mai mare,cel mai bun,cel mai tare,etc sunt absolut inexistente,irelevante (bine la Tupac si alte cateva exemple inteleg)pentru ca nu se bazeaza pe "cate albume a vandut ,pe ce loc e in top"(asculta Krs-one-Down the charts)care este folosit la muzica comerciala.Sper ca nu te ai simtit ofensat,sper .

In alta ordine de idei,eu sincer sper ca el chiar a murit.Cum sa va explic...daca l-ai pune pe Vivaldi in fata unui televizor unde canta Alex sau Guta...sper ca intelegi.Si sincer nu cred ca ar vrea sa fie ALESUL in muzica de azi unde se fac topicuri cu cel mai bun rapper si numai Akon lipseste din Poll :)) .

To Tupac: I hope you're not alive to see what's play'n these days,It would be a waste .Respect,RIP .
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Re: Tupac-greatest rapper ever

Postby Tupac » 20 Jan 2009, 12:44

ai dreptate cvse multumesc si tie pentru exprimarea opiniei. Nu m`am simtit ofensat in niciun fel, ba chiar ma bucur ca are cine sa ma critice, atata timp cat are o baza oarecum reala sau macar posibila. Asa este cum ai zis si tu, s`ar cam ingrozi cand ar vedea ce este astazi insa ar reactiona, cum de altfel reactionam si noi :)
Mie unuia, revin mi`ar place mult sa il revad pe scena, sa vad cum toti "rapperii" astia care cresca ca ciupercile dupa ploaie raman in spate mult insa trebuie sa accept realitatea...totusi daca nu am speranta ce mai am? :))
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Re: Tupac-greatest rapper ever

Postby Globalz » 29 Nov 2009, 21:02

ai scris tot ce trebuia despre 2pac ...gg ;)
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Re: Tupac-greatest rapper ever

Postby Smileyy » 20 Jan 2010, 23:15

Marfa sunt cateva lucruri pe care nu le stiam :X oricum 2 pac a fost fara indoiala cel mai bun rapper care a existat vreodata R.I.P
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Re: Tupac-greatest rapper ever

Postby dacs » 12 Feb 2010, 21:12

numarul 7 e un numar al perfectiunii folosit de multe culturi.
M-am uitat la calculele alea si am ajuns la concluzia ca despre mine pot gasi mai multe legaturi privind numarul 7.
In rest stima si respect 2PAC, you'll live thru your music and poetry O:-)
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Re: Tupac-greatest rapper ever

Postby Subsemnatu » 19 Feb 2010, 00:29

da'..cam mare mister in urma lui, nu? ;)) este o legenda a rapului :P si un om misterios...cel putin asa l'au facut fanii astia disperati :)) care spun ca nu a murit :| de unde si vorba:...2Pac nu a murit, el sta pe invisible:P un om oricat de bun ar fi...odata ce e mort, ramane mort :P adevarul e ca el asta a vrut...sa ramana ceva dupa el...si a ramas un mister si niste fani disperati, no offense ;))
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Re: Tupac-greatest rapper ever

Postby Subsemnatu » 19 Feb 2010, 00:39

gandeste-te ce rost ar avea sa-si fi inscenat moartea? yo din cate am auzit cica el o sa apara in 2014 :-?? daca ar fi adevarat, inseamna ca e un mare prost, fara suparare :|
1] Stai ascuns o mare parte din viata, ferit de oameni si practic, de tot :P
2] In momentu in care el "apare" este arestat pentru ca si-a inscenat moartea...;)) ceea ce inseamna puscarie pe viata, mi se pare :-?
...deci in concluzie...parerea mea este ca e o mare prostia faza asta cu 2Pac..el e mort fratilor!! :P ...sau daca nu, el e un mare bou ;))
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